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Greenville's Bradford Creek Golf Course is open seven days a week and boasts a variety of affordable rates for golfers of all ages. (Rob Taylor/The Daily Reflector)
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Greenville's Bradford Creek Golf Course is open seven days a week and boasts a variety of affordable rates for golfers of all ages. (Rob Taylor/The Daily Reflector)

Golf course adviser challenges report

By Wesley Brown

The Daily Reflector

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An adviser to the Bradford Creek Public Golf Course expressed strong distaste this week for a strategic vision being sought for the city-owned club, calling the plan “pejorative” and saying it painted an illogical and incomplete picture of the facility.

Speaking before the Greenville Recreation and Parks Commission, Jim Decker, associate dean of East Carolina University’s Kinesiology Department and a 22-year resident of Greenville, picked apart a recent operational analysis completed on the course by Golf Convergence, a consulting firm based in Castle Rock, Colo.


Decker, one of nine members on the Bradford Creek Advisory Committee, questioned the 90-page report’s findings and conclusions, specifically a statement that the greatest return to the city would be to sell the course, estimated to have a value of $3.2 million.

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here's an idea

Let's do something to really help out the youths in our community. Let's have one public funded golf course for each public funded basketball court. Golf courses provide a much nicer view and are usually alot quieter. Who would not choose to live next to a golf course over living next to a basketball court? Which sport would you rather your kids be invloved in?

CLEAR BIAS from Kinesiology Professor, golf club board member

So a kinesiology professor and Bradfordcreek advisory board member declares himself an expert.... over the National Golf association....Doesn't provide any data, but compares Pitt county to Moore County the home of the USOpen and one of the biggest golfing communities on the planet? Wow, no biased opinion at all, right? Sorry, Mr. Kinesiology professor. There are a heck of alot of other people in Greenville who need a finite amount of resources--- than a handful of retired old white males from across the region who are looking for cheap golf on the back if Greenville taxpayers at the tune of millions of dollars. THE FACTS ARE CLEAR - from the most reputable credentialed 3rd-party golf organization in the country. Not,,,, a bias kinesiology professor who sits on the Brad.Creek board. This is costing the city MILLIONS, unlike police cruisers, ball fields or greenways, puts city government in competition against private citizens in our city. If you can't sell it in this economy, raise the fees to pay it's iwn costs and find an efficient entity to manage the bloated costs

Well said Dr. Decker. Thank You...

The $30K the Parks Dir. Fenton spent on a study he should have done in house was a waste of money. Dr. Decker would have done a far better job. The consultant spent three days here, didn't talk to golfers, didn't talk to staff, gave no specifics on how to generate more income or reduce expenses other than to raise fees, threw together some stats and walked away with $30 K. He even mentioned things in his report, ie a food contract, that doesn't even exist at Bradford Creek. Dr. Decker has been involved with Bradford Creek and Golf Courses in the area for years. He would have been a far better person to issue a report than some guy from Colorado that spent 3 days here. I still do not understand why the golf course which makes 95-97% of its budget is the program under the gun. Will Fenton please reveal what other programs come close to that number? The Dog Park = No revenue, Greenways = No revenue, Gyms and centers? Sports? Community Pool? Arts & Crafts? I bet none of them come close. The dept average, not counting Golf course and fitness center, is less than 13% ($600 K in revenue vs. $5 million in expenses.) How much money does he city spend to support baseball (Little League, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth and othrs) and what revenue does it get in return? Before everyone gets in an uproar, I not saying the city should recoup their expenses on baseball or all others but treat the golf course the same as others are treated.

Let us be honest.

Let us be honest. Golf is a rich man's game. Horse racing may be the sport of Kings but golf is the sport of the rich and those wanting to hang out with them. Do not encourage the average person to play golf. They will only be hurt in the end. It is like a poor man dating a rich women, it rarely ends well. The cost of clubs, the cart & green fees, the lessons, range fees, all those lost balls, those fancy golf shirts, shoes and britches. Then the cost of travel to and from the course. Then if you get good enough you want to join a private course so that you will not have to be associated with the hackers thus further leaving the public course in a lurch. The city does a disservice to the residents when it entices them into taking up golf. Next the city will be encouraging the citizens to enter the Big Rock Tournament. Like downtown redevelopment, golf needs to be private. Don't compete with the private clubs. Let them live. The time spent discussing taxpayer funded golf could well be spent discussing crime reduction. Or the number of blood kin that can live in the same house.

oatmeal

oatmeal wrote:
Let us be honest. Golf is a rich man's game. Horse racing may be the sport of Kings but golf is the sport of the rich and those wanting to hang out with them. Do not encourage the average person to play golf. They will only be hurt in the end. It is like a poor man dating a rich women, it rarely ends well. The cost of clubs, the cart & green fees, the lessons, range fees, all those lost balls, those fancy golf shirts, shoes and britches. Then the cost of travel to and from the course. Then if you get good enough you want to join a private course so that you will not have to be associated with the hackers thus further leaving the public course in a lurch. The city does a disservice to the residents when it entices them into taking up golf. Next the city will be encouraging the citizens to enter the Big Rock Tournament. Like downtown redevelopment, golf needs to be private. Don't compete with the private clubs. Let them live. The time spent discussing taxpayer funded golf could well be spent discussing crime reduction. Or the number of blood kin that can live in the same house.
. "Do not encourage the average person to play golf. They will only be hurt in the end." Possibly the dumbest thing I have seen written in a long long time. Until I saw "britches".

But in your heart

You know I am right. Encouraging poor people to take up golf is cruel. It is just too expensive. The city should encourage poor people to walk. It is healthy and free. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Oatmeal. Have you ever been

Oatmeal. Have you ever been to Bradford Creek? If you have then you will know it is not Greenville Country Club. Golf at Bradford Creek is not for the rich man but for the common man, and woman, who want to get outside and socialize for a few hours at a reasonable price. You can walk 18 holes for as little as $19.00 for a great morning or afternoon of excercise and fun. Check it out before you make a bigger fool of yourself with your uniformed comments.

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